{"id":2168,"date":"2011-07-07T13:28:54","date_gmt":"2011-07-07T20:28:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tgdarkly.com\/blog\/?p=2168"},"modified":"2011-07-07T13:28:54","modified_gmt":"2011-07-07T20:28:54","slug":"n-d-wilson-on-bell-blech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2011\/07\/07\/n-d-wilson-on-bell-blech\/","title":{"rendered":"N.D. Wilson on Bell:  Ugly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ndwilson.com\/ndw\">N.D. Wilson<\/a> writes on Rob Bell in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.booksandculture.com\/articles\/2011\/julaug\/pensiverabbits.html\">current issue of Books &amp; Culture<\/a>.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t agree with some of Rob Bell&#8217;s conclusions in &#8220;Love Wins&#8221; (to the extent I can figure out what he concludes), but Wilson&#8217;s piece is just atrocious.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s something I sent in to B&amp;C, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll have the space to print it.\u00a0 What bothers me most about Wilson&#8217;s piece (and about <a href=\"http:\/\/forsclavigera.blogspot.com\/2011\/04\/can-hope-be-wrong-on-new-universalism.html\">a similar blog post by Jamie Smith<\/a>, much as I respect Jamie), is the notion that a sense of aesthetics, a gut-sense that God just <em>can&#8217;t<\/em> be how He is portrayed by some folks, is an invalid source of knowledge.\u00a0 I think that aesthetic sense, that pit you get in the stomach when something just sounds wrong, often serves as an important pointer towards truth.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s the text of my long letter to B&amp;C:<\/p>\n<p>Apparently, for N.D. Wilson (&#8220;Pensive Rabbits,&#8221; July \/ August 2011), God  is free to act arbitrarily and call it &#8220;good.&#8221;\u00a0 There  is no sense, it seems from Wilson&#8217;s review Rob Bell&#8217;s &#8220;Love Wins,&#8221; in  which God&#8217;s inherent character might constrain the ways in which God  acts.\u00a0 Nor is the any sense in which the <em>imago Dei<\/em> in humans, or  the subtle presence of the Holy Spirit, might prove useful as a  hermeneutical lens for discerning whether some particular account of how  God supposedly acts really is True.\u00a0 Bizarrely, Wilson the novelist  (does he write ugly stories?) decries Bell&#8217;s appeal to aesthetics as  bizarre.\u00a0 Never mind the vital role aesthetics has played in the  development of Christian conceptions of Truth down through the millennia  of Christian thought.<\/p>\n<p>Could it be that when something strikes us as terribly &#8220;ugly,&#8221; that  thing is splattering against the Truth of God&#8217;s image deep within us?\u00a0 I  felt this recently when I took a tour of the Auschwitz concentration  camp outside Krakow, Poland.\u00a0 I was in Krakow for a theology conference  on the theme &#8220;What is Life.&#8221;\u00a0 I learned more during that tour of  Auschwitz than I did from any of the papers given during the conference  (many of which were excellent).\u00a0 I suppose that, for Wilson, the  visceral ugliness of Auschwitz doesn&#8217;t convey any Truth at all.\u00a0 For my  part, I think the bile I felt in my throat during my tour of Auschwitz  was the image of God pressing against every cell in my body &#8212;  literally, a &#8220;visceral&#8221; reaction, deep in my viscera &#8212; against the  horror of the death camps.<\/p>\n<p>This is why I think Bell is entirely right to raise the &#8220;hippidy-hipster&#8217;s&#8221; cynical &#8220;<em>Really<\/em>&#8221;  in response to the stories of Heaven and Hell we so often like to  tell.\u00a0 A young Hindu woman, forced into sexual slavery because of her  family&#8217;s debts, dies forsaken in a brothel of AIDS, never having heard  the name of Jesus.\u00a0 She is immediately escorted to the eternal conscious  torment of Hell.\u00a0 All of this ultimately glorifies God.\u00a0 &#8220;<em>Really?&#8221; <\/em>Yet  that is the story much of popular Evangelical soteriology would force  us to swallow.\u00a0 Should we all shout &#8220;Sig, Heil!&#8221;?\u00a0 &#8220;Hail Victory&#8221; does  sound like a catchy title for a Praise and Worship song.\u00a0 Or does the  naked ugliness of this story hint that it isn&#8217;t really Truth?<\/p>\n<p>Wilson&#8217;s response is a strange, quasi-modalistic fideism.\u00a0 If Jesus  thinks &#8220;the earth is the center of the universe,&#8221; Wilson asserts in his  concluding Credo, &#8220;[t]hen so do I.&#8221;\u00a0 Wilson&#8217;s disregard for the other  two important persons one might want to consult &#8212; the Father and the  Holy Spirit &#8212; is telling.\u00a0 For Wilson, God&#8217;s (or I suppose &#8220;Jesus'&#8221;)  actions can be arbitrary.\u00a0 There is no relation between the economic and  immanent Trinity.\u00a0 God does not act as God in His Triune being <em>is<\/em> &#8212; he acts as pure power.\u00a0 So why bother with the Trinity at all?<\/p>\n<p>Wilson&#8217;s implied modalism leads to his baffling use of the present tense concerning what &#8220;Jesus<em> thinks<\/em>.&#8221;\u00a0 How can we know what &#8220;Jesus <em>thinks<\/em>&#8221;  (present tense)?\u00a0 We of course know some things that Jesus &#8220;thought&#8221; as  described in the Gospels.\u00a0 We have to employ all sorts of theological  and herementuetical grids to begin to get at what those things mean for  us, particularly when we try to construct doctrine.\u00a0 Should we, say,  hate our parents (Luke 14:26)?\u00a0 What did Jesus <em>mean<\/em> by that?\u00a0 And  we have no idea at all what Jesus &#8220;thought&#8221; about most things during  his life on earth.\u00a0 The doctrines of the incarnation and the kenosis  ensure that Jesus the man held many typical first-century Jewish ideas  that educated people, including Wilson, don&#8217;t hold today.\u00a0 Maybe even  things like geocentric cosmology.\u00a0 But all of this is the sort of stuff  only smarmy skinny-jean clad seminarians talk about while they sip  lattes in the div school cafe.\u00a0 A real man like Wilson can let all that  pass.<\/p>\n<p>So how do we know what Jesus &#8212; or better, the Triune God &#8212;  &#8220;thinks&#8221; today?\u00a0 We do what believers in the Triune God revealed in  Jesus Christ have always done.\u00a0 We exercise faith that seeks  understanding.\u00a0 We search the scriptures.\u00a0 We use the minds and the  experiences God has given us &#8212; including our innate, God-imaging sense  of aesthetics &#8212; and we listen for the still, small voice of the Holy  Spirit.\u00a0 We look deep into the tradition of thought bequeathed by those  who have gone before us in the faith.\u00a0 If what we come up with seems  awfully ugly, if the Spirit within us wants to retch, we keep working on  it.\u00a0 We don&#8217;t settle for Auschwitz when<em> shalom <\/em>is who God in His perichoretic being <em>is<\/em>.\u00a0 Some of Bell&#8217;s answers are wrong, but &#8220;<em>Really&#8221; <\/em>is the right question to ask of many of the hideous God-stories we tell.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>N.D. Wilson writes on Rob Bell in the current issue of Books &amp; Culture.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t agree with some of Rob Bell&#8217;s conclusions in &#8220;Love Wins&#8221; (to the extent I can figure out what he concludes), but Wilson&#8217;s piece is just atrocious.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s something I sent in to B&amp;C, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll have [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[4,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2168","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-spirituality","category-theology"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p824rZ-yY","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2168","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2168"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2168\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2168"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2168"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2168"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}