{"id":3314,"date":"2018-01-23T02:18:13","date_gmt":"2018-01-23T02:18:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/?p=3314"},"modified":"2018-01-23T02:18:13","modified_gmt":"2018-01-23T02:18:13","slug":"1-peter-more-on-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/23\/1-peter-more-on-translation\/","title":{"rendered":"1 Peter:  More on Translation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3295\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/06\/1-peter-translating-chapter-1\/peter\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?fit=208%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"208,354\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"peter\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?fit=208%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3295\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?resize=176%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"176\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?resize=176%2C300&amp;ssl=1 176w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?w=208&amp;ssl=1 208w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 176px) 100vw, 176px\" \/>In my study of 1 Peter, using David Bentley Hart&#8217;s New Testament as one of my English versions, here&#8217;s another interesting translation issue.<\/p>\n<p>1 Peter 1:13: \u0394\u03b9\u1f78 \u1f00\u03bd\u03b1\u03b6\u03c9\u03c3\u1f71\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03bf\u03b9 \u03c4\u1f70\u03c2 \u1f40\u03c3\u03c6\u1f7b\u03b1\u03c2 \u03c4\u1fc6\u03c2 \u03b4\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd\u03bf\u1f77\u03b1\u03c2 \u1f51\u03bc\u1ff6\u03bd \u03bd\u1f75\u03c6\u03bf\u03bd\u03c4\u03b5\u03c2 \u03c4\u03b5\u03bb\u03b5\u1f77\u03c9\u03c2 \u1f10\u03bb\u03c0\u1f77\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f10\u03c0\u1f76 \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bc\u1f73\u03bd\u03b7\u03bd \u1f51\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd \u03c7\u1f71\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd \u1f10\u03bd \u1f00\u03c0\u03bf\u03ba\u03b1\u03bb\u1f7b\u03c8\u03b5\u03b9 \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03a7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6.<\/p>\n<p>NRS: Therefore prepare your minds for action; discipline yourselves; set all your hope on the grace that Jesus Christ will bring you when he is revealed.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3291\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/04\/1-peter-the-eschatological-frame\/hart\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?fit=233%2C348&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"233,348\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"hart\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?fit=233%2C348&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3291\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?resize=201%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"201\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?resize=201%2C300&amp;ssl=1 201w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?w=233&amp;ssl=1 233w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px\" \/>NIV: Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Chr<span class=\"text_exposed_show\">ist is revealed at his coming.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text_exposed_show\">\n<p>David Bentley Hart:\u00a0 So, girding up the loins of your mind, being sober, vest your hope completely in the grace being brought to you in the revelation of Jesus the Annointed,<\/p>\n<p>I understand DBH&#8217;s decision to &#8220;literally&#8221; render the idiom \u1f00\u03bd\u03b1\u03b6\u03c9\u03c3\u1f71\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03bf\u03b9 \u03c4\u1f70\u03c2 \u1f40\u03c3\u03c6\u1f7b\u03b1\u03c2. I understand his decision to render \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03a7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 &#8220;Jesus the Annointed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>DBH renders the phrase \u1f10\u03c0\u1f76 \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bc\u1f73\u03bd\u03b7\u03bd \u1f51\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd \u03c7\u1f71\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd \u1f10\u03bd \u1f00\u03c0\u03bf\u03ba\u03b1\u03bb\u1f7b\u03c8\u03b5\u03b9 \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03a7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 as something happening in the present: &#8220;the grace being brought to you in the revelation of Jesus Chirst.&#8221; Both the NRS and NIV render it as something in the future: &#8220;The grace that Jesus Christ will bring you when he is revealed&#8221; (NRS) or &#8220;the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming&#8221; (NIV). The difference seems to turn on the function of the preposition \u1f10\u03c0\u1f76. The object of the preposition \u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bc\u1f73\u03bd\u03b7\u03bd is in the accusative. According to BDAG, \u1f10\u03c0\u1f76 with the accusative can mean where (location), to or toward or on or upon (direction &#8212; either in progress or attained), over (marker of power or control over something), before (as in a legal proceeding, before the court), against (marker of hostile opposition), or when, in the time of, at, on (marker of temporal association) &#8212; or, &#8220;marker of feelings directed toward someone, in, on, for, toward, after words that express belief, trust hope&#8221; &#8212; and this last one is where BDAG lists 1 Peter 1:13.<\/p>\n<p>So why would DBH choose a more &#8220;present&#8221; rendering of this prepositional phrase? The context seems to suggest a future hope, and that seems consistent with 1 Peter&#8217;s theology: these are the end times, Christ is returning very soon, so hang on and when Christ comes back he will make everything right.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my study of 1 Peter, using David Bentley Hart&#8217;s New Testament as one of my English versions, here&#8217;s another interesting translation issue. 1 Peter 1:13: \u0394\u03b9\u1f78 \u1f00\u03bd\u03b1\u03b6\u03c9\u03c3\u1f71\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03bf\u03b9 \u03c4\u1f70\u03c2 \u1f40\u03c3\u03c6\u1f7b\u03b1\u03c2 \u03c4\u1fc6\u03c2 \u03b4\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd\u03bf\u1f77\u03b1\u03c2 \u1f51\u03bc\u1ff6\u03bd \u03bd\u1f75\u03c6\u03bf\u03bd\u03c4\u03b5\u03c2 \u03c4\u03b5\u03bb\u03b5\u1f77\u03c9\u03c2 \u1f10\u03bb\u03c0\u1f77\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f10\u03c0\u1f76 \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bc\u1f73\u03bd\u03b7\u03bd \u1f51\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd \u03c7\u1f71\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd \u1f10\u03bd \u1f00\u03c0\u03bf\u03ba\u03b1\u03bb\u1f7b\u03c8\u03b5\u03b9 \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03a7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6. 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