{"id":3317,"date":"2018-01-23T02:37:28","date_gmt":"2018-01-23T02:37:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/?p=3317"},"modified":"2018-01-23T02:37:28","modified_gmt":"2018-01-23T02:37:28","slug":"1-peter-translation-spirit-or-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/23\/1-peter-translation-spirit-or-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"1 Peter:  Translation:   Spirit or Reason?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3295\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/06\/1-peter-translating-chapter-1\/peter\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?fit=208%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"208,354\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"peter\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?fit=208%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3295\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?resize=176%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"176\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?resize=176%2C300&amp;ssl=1 176w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/peter.png?w=208&amp;ssl=1 208w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 176px) 100vw, 176px\" \/>So here&#8217;s another DBH translation quirk \/ difference in my study of 1 Peter. 1 Peter 2:2: <span lang=\"el\">\u1f61\u03c2 \u1f00\u03c1\u03c4\u03b9\u03b3\u1f73\u03bd\u03bd\u03b7\u03c4\u03b1 \u03b2\u03c1\u1f73\u03c6\u03b7 \u03c4\u1f78 \u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f78\u03bd \u1f04\u03b4\u03bf\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b3\u1f71\u03bb\u03b1 \u1f10\u03c0\u03b9\u03c0\u03bf\u03b8\u1f75\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5, \u1f35\u03bd\u03b1 \u1f10\u03bd \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1ff7 \u03b1\u1f50\u03be\u03b7\u03b8\u1fc6\u03c4\u03b5 \u03b5\u1f30\u03c2 \u03c3\u03c9\u03c4\u03b7\u03c1\u1f77\u03b1\u03bd,<\/span> (1 Pet. 2:2 GNT)<\/p>\n<p>NIV: Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,<\/p>\n<p>NRS: Like newborn infants, long for the pure, spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow into salvation&#8211;<\/p>\n<div class=\"text_exposed_show\">\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3291\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2018\/01\/04\/1-peter-the-eschatological-frame\/hart\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?fit=233%2C348&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"233,348\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"hart\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?fit=233%2C348&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3291\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?resize=201%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"201\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?resize=201%2C300&amp;ssl=1 201w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hart.png?w=233&amp;ssl=1 233w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px\" \/>DBH: Crave the unadulterated milk of reason like newborn babes, so that you may thereby grow into salvation,<\/p>\n<p>The phrase I&#8217;m focused on is &#8220;pure spiritual milk&#8221; or &#8220;unadulterated milk of reason&#8221; &#8212; potentially a really interesting difference!<\/p>\n<p>I think I like Hart&#8217;s rendering of <span lang=\"el\">\u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f78\u03bd \u1f04\u03b4\u03bf\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b3\u1f71\u03bb\u03b1<\/el> better. <span lang=\"el\">\u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f78\u03bd<\/el> in the classical sense means &#8220;reason&#8221; or &#8220;logic.&#8221; I note also that DBH translates <span lang=\"el\">\u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f74\u03bd<\/el> similarly in Romans 12:1 in the phrase <span lang=\"el\">\u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f74\u03bd \u03bb\u03b1\u03c4\u03c1\u03b5\u1f77\u03b1\u03bd \u1f51\u03bc\u1ff6\u03bd<\/el> as &#8220;your rational worship&#8221; instead of &#8220;your true and proper&#8221; (NIV) or &#8220;spiritual&#8221; (NRS) worship. &#8220;Rational&#8221; sounds odd in Romans 12:1, but Romans 12:2 refers to the renewal of the &#8220;mind&#8221; or (per DBH) &#8220;intellect&#8221; (<span lang=\"el\">\u03bd\u03bf\u1f78\u03c2<\/el>) so the context there does seem to refer to the &#8220;mind&#8221; and not the &#8220;spirit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m curious, though, why in 1 Peter 2:2 as well as in BDAG &#8220;spirit&#8221; or &#8220;spiritual&#8221; is seen as the better reading?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So here&#8217;s another DBH translation quirk \/ difference in my study of 1 Peter. 1 Peter 2:2: \u1f61\u03c2 \u1f00\u03c1\u03c4\u03b9\u03b3\u1f73\u03bd\u03bd\u03b7\u03c4\u03b1 \u03b2\u03c1\u1f73\u03c6\u03b7 \u03c4\u1f78 \u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u03b9\u03ba\u1f78\u03bd \u1f04\u03b4\u03bf\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b3\u1f71\u03bb\u03b1 \u1f10\u03c0\u03b9\u03c0\u03bf\u03b8\u1f75\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5, \u1f35\u03bd\u03b1 \u1f10\u03bd \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1ff7 \u03b1\u1f50\u03be\u03b7\u03b8\u1fc6\u03c4\u03b5 \u03b5\u1f30\u03c2 \u03c3\u03c9\u03c4\u03b7\u03c1\u1f77\u03b1\u03bd, (1 Pet. 2:2 GNT) NIV: Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, NRS: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[90],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3317","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-1-peter"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p824rZ-Rv","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3317","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3317"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3317\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3327,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3317\/revisions\/3327"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3317"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3317"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3317"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}