{"id":637,"date":"2008-09-05T14:30:26","date_gmt":"2008-09-05T21:30:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tgdarkly.com\/blog\/?p=637"},"modified":"2008-09-05T14:30:26","modified_gmt":"2008-09-05T21:30:26","slug":"what-is-biblical-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidopderbeck.com\/tgdarkly\/2008\/09\/05\/what-is-biblical-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"What is Biblical &quot;Faith&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is one of those amazing things.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been thinking a bit lately about what Biblical &#8220;faith&#8221; means, how it contrasts with &#8220;doubt,&#8221; and how these concepts tie together in connection with the way we understand the Bible.\u00a0 Literally moments after praying for some wisdom about this, I thought of checking the Conn-versation blog, and lo and behold &#8212; there is a post from a week ago on this very topic.\u00a0 I reproduce that post below, to be chewed on when I have more time:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">Over the past year, as I have been posting, lurking, and chiming in here at Conn-versation, and reading and occasionally commenting on <a href=\"http:\/\/aboulet.wordpress.com\/\"><span style=\"color: #909d73;\">Art Boulet\u2019s personal blog<\/span><\/a>, I have continually found myself brought back to the question of what Christian faith really is.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">The Bible has a good bit to say on the subject, but it\u2019s really a New Testament concept.<span> <\/span>The OT explicitly addresses <em>faithfulness<\/em>, but it\u2019s usually in the context of a quality of Yahweh and the desired quality of his people.<span> <\/span>The aspect of belief and trust that we typically mean when we talk about faith makes its first appearance in the gospels.<span> <\/span>Jesus observes faith in the people he encounters, and\u00a0tends to\u00a0evaluate it on a quantitative scale: little or great.<span> <\/span>He seems to be addressing their specific willingness to trust in him personally to accomplish in-real-time salvific acts, manifest most often in healing and life-restoration miracles, which then serve as object lessons pointing to his greater purpose.<span> For the most part, i<\/span>t\u2019s not until the epistles that we get a fuller-blown explication of faith as belief and trust in the person and work of Christ for salvation and eternal life.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">In light of this, what does it then mean when we talk about hanging on to faith or losing faith as we ask questions of the Bible?<span> <\/span>It has occurred to me that conservative reformed Christians have worked hard to ensure that faith is so underpinned by certainties that &#8211; well &#8211; it doesn\u2019t require all that much faith.<span> <\/span>To be one of the people of Yahweh requires faith in Jesus, which requires faith in the Bible, which believers can trust completely because the church has doctrinally declared to be inerrant, wholly trustworthy, and perfect down to its very words.<span> <\/span>Start asking too many untidy questions of the Conn-versation sort, and the whole system, it would seem, is at risk of collapsing, bringing the faith of the faithful along with it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">This is where I\u2019ve had difficulty.<span> <\/span>Does my faith in the Jesus of the gospels really hinge on Genesis 5 being literally true, as opposed to <a href=\"http:\/\/aboulet.wordpress.com\/2008\/08\/19\/genesis-5-history-or-mimetic-fiction\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #909d73;\">an Israelite retooling and repurposing of\u00a0the Sumerian kings list<\/span><\/a>?\u00a0 On\u00a0insisting as true\u00a0that Samson was a historic figure and his deeds were accomplished as recorded or that David wrote the Psalms bearing his name?\u00a0 On intentionally burying\u00a0my understanding of the very different looks of Jeremiah in the MT and the LXX in favor of one Jeremiah only?\u00a0 If these things are equivocal, must it follow that Jesus is equivocal?<span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">Faith requires an element of trust in the absence of concrete proof.<span> <\/span>It is, as the writer of Hebrews puts it, \u201cthe conviction of things not seen.\u201d<span> <\/span>Given that, to what extent does the church\u2019s admittedly well-intended insistence on the perfection of Scripture as a bedrock of faith begin to work at cross-purposes with trusting in things not seen?<span> <\/span>It strikes me as requiring a greater measure of faith to go with the kind of Bible we\u2019ve actually got than the kind of Bible we may have at one time thought we had,\u00a0or the kind that arch-conservatives continue to insist we must have.<span> <\/span>Is there room for the Holy Spirit to infuse the believer\u2019s soul with the truth of the gospel resulting in faith even when Genesis 1-11 is understood to be literature rather than\u00a0history?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0px;\">I think it\u2019s time for some reflections on exactly what\u00a0we as Christian believers mean when we say we have faith.<span> <\/span>Is the Bible we have, the one that God in some mysterious way caused to be written, assembled, translated, and passed down by generation after generation of Christians, robust enough to withstand detailed secular and academic scrutiny and still contribute to the creation and growth of faithful believers in the person and work of Jesus to salvation?<span> <\/span>If it\u2019s not, what are we really saying?<span> <\/span>Is it, as the conservatives would argue, that God is less than fully God?<span> <\/span>Or, is it, as I have begun to think, that our faith is less than the faith that Jesus himself commended?\u00a0 Or, is it something else?\u00a0 What do you think?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is one of those amazing things.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been thinking a bit lately about what Biblical &#8220;faith&#8221; 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